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Weekly Financial Report
With Scott Roulston of Fairport Asset Management

Friday, January 11, 2002

Scott Roulston, CEO of Fairport Asset Management, discusses the reasons for Ford Motor Company's current economic woes, the recent sale of the Galleria at Erieview, and the loss this week of Wendy's corporate leader Dave Thomas.

April Baer–Northeast Ohio automotive plants are full of nervous people this morning. Just after 9 a.m. today, Ford is expected to announce reductions in its worldwide operations that are intended to counteract its first corporate losses in decades. There are plenty of other items for investors to consider today in addition to the Ford restructuring. The Consumer Price Index will be released and Fed Chair, Alan Greenspan, is going to make a speech. Also, there has been a big development in the local real estate market. I'm joined by Scott Roulston of Fairport Asset Management who joins us every Friday to talk about business news. Good morning, Scott.

Scott Roulston–Good morning, April.

AB–Let's talk about Ford first. I am at a loss to understand this. Auto sales were reportedly wonderful in the last quarter of the year. The Big Three automakers offered these incredible bargain basement, zero interest financing packages. That supposedly moved a lot of cars. Why is Ford hurting so badly right now?

SR–They are selling cars, and lots of them. They are just trying to figure out how to do it profitably. Ford, in particular, is getting it from all ends. The imports have invaded their turf in trucks, which is really where they were making their most money. Their rebates, as you mentioned, for the domestic automakers - well, for example, in December, Ford's average rebate was $2300, Honda's average rebate was only $500. So Ford had to give a lot more money away or discount their cars a lot more to sell them. Ford has other problems too, relating to their union contracts and what's happening is that Ford seems to be behind the curve in reducing their cost structure. They're kind of aiming at the present reality, rather than the future realities, and they're always behind the 8 ball. Kind of like what GM did a few years ago.

AB–Yes, that's interesting. I remember Ford used to be considered ahead of GM in terms of streamlining their profitability. Any thoughts on how the rest of the auto industry is doing and what kind of vehicles they'll have to sell?

SR–Well, the projection that I was just reading yesterday (and there's a lot of information coming out at the Detroit auto shows going on right now) is that mini-vans are going to decline and SUVs are going to continue up. That raises a whole other issue relative to gas mileage and so forth. But the imports are really the buzz right now. It was interesting at the Detroit auto show that Pontiac and Toyota have a joint venture going on with the same cars, but Toyota is getting all the buzz and all the people congregating around their version and the Pontiac isn't getting any attention, from what I heard from people up at the auto show.

AB–Scott, a deal has been made to sell the Galleria at Erieview. This complex in downtown Cleveland used to be the hottest retail spot in town, but lately it's been quieter than the Erie Street Cemetery. I haven't heard much about this group that's buying it. What do you know about them?

SR–I was talking to a couple of people from Colliers yesterday, who are the largest real estate firm in Ohio. First of all, as far as the Galleria goes and what we have known it as in the past, they both told me that as much as we'd like to see retail space in downtown, there just is not the business to support it, and especially without an anchor, it is not going to work. So the Galleria as we knew it, you are not going to see any more Banana Republic stores down there. But it is a good sign that these out-of-towners are coming in and investing in downtown. Here's the scoop that you were asking. There are two brothers from Pittsburgh by the names of Jim and Bill Rudolph and my understanding is that their father was one of the largest Wendy's franchisers that had very deep pockets. They took over an old building in downtown Pittsburgh and renovated that. So maybe this will come back as some other use downtown in Galleria. Let's hope so.

AB–You mentioned Wendy's. We should note this week that the big burger empire based down in the central Ohio area, did lose its founder and chief spokesman, Dave Thomas, this week. Not everyone thinks this guy was great for bringing more fast food into the world, but he was such a figure in that corporation. What an amazing loss this must be for Wendy's!

SR–Well, I understand they even had a public viewing at the corporate headquarters. It's hard to imaging Wendy's without Dave Thomas. It's kind of like Disney without Walt, but even Disney moved on and did pretty well and I'm sure Wendy's will.

AB–Dave Thomas was known to so many people, partly because he stared in just hundreds of Wendy's commercials. I guess that's going to be something their advertising department is going to have to deal with too, huh?

SR–They spent $300 million a year in advertisements, so now they are going to have to find a new spokesperson, that's right.

AB–Scott, thanks so much.

SR–You're welcome. Have a great weekend.

AB–Scott Roulston with Fairport Asset Management talks to us Friday mornings about the week's business news.


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